Every day since I had this conversation with Ludovic Blain, I’ve thought about something he said. I don’t mean that one thought has echoed. I mean that many of the things he said have come to mind over the last couple weeks, as I’ve tried to make sense of what’s happening in this country.

Blain is the CEO of the California Donor Table, a statewide community of donors who invest in communities of color so they can elect people who can represent their values and can hold their elected officials accountable. He also has years of experience building people of color-centered movements around economic justice, environmental justice, media justice, voting rights – and campaign finance reform.

We talked about what we can learn from Reconstruction and Progressive Eras, and why it’s so motivating to remember that our heroes were also just regular people.

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